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Camille Flammarion, Mad Scientist, and the expedition into the Hollow Earth.

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Camille Flammarion (1842-1925) was a French astronomer, science popularizer, and author of science fiction. (Wikipedia entry here). He's not well-known in the U.S., but in Europe he has a certain reputation as a Victorian poor man's Carl Sagan. (Hmm. Costermonger's Carl Sagan? Or would that be too obscure?)

Flammarion was also, ahem, a bit of a nut job. The Wiki entry touches on his views on "spiritism," and the at-the-time notorious Flammarion Woodcut (that's the Woodcut there on the right) hint at Flammarion's tendency to let his enthusiasm get the better of him, at the expense of strict truthfulness. (I certainly understand and sympathise with him in this regard. I guess we can just think of this as the 19th century French sf version of truthiness).

But the following, taken from a Times of London piece in 1888 (I think), is new to me:

A most remarkable bill has been introduced in the American Congress. It appropriates 100,000dol to be expended in boring into the earth's crust, and the duty of spending the money has been relegated to the Engineer Corps of the United States Army. This boring is to be done "with a view of extending and enlarging our knowledge of the features and peculiarities of its formation and structure." The provision for making a report requires "that the Secretary of War shall make a report to the Fiftieth Congress showing the progress of the boring up to the date of the report, together with the views of the board as to the depth to which, with mechanical instruments and appliances at their command, it can be carried ; and that the estimates submitted by the War department for the ensuing year shall include an estimate of the amount necessary to prosecute the work during the fiscal year ending June 30,1889." In choosing land for the purpose preference is required to be given to that of little value, and the title shall be secured to land four miles in every direction from the bore-hole. Curiously akin to this scheme is one propounded almost coincidently by M. Flammarion, the eminent French astronomer, who has been dubbed for his pains "a mad scientist." M. Flammarion's mind is exercised by the spectacle presented in Europe at the present time, where 5,000,000 men stand armed for mutual destruction. In the interests of humanity and science, he wises to utilise the services of these men to some profitable and peaceful task. This is no less than to dig an enormous hole into the globe for the purpose of once for all finding out what is inside. With the armies of Europe for workmen, he would by their means solve the perplexing problems and mysteries which surround the vast regions hid from mortal eye in the body of this sphere. A London paper says :--Of the interior of our earth below the depth of one mile nothing whatever is known, and not even a guess can be made of the 8000 miles which separate us in a direct line from our kinsfolk in Australia and New Zealand. M. Flammarion's weird idea leads to some interesting and amusing reflections. The hole would have to have a diagonal direction, for no hauling gear miles long could be contrived for pulling up and letting down men vertically, as miners do. Cornish miners even work stripped to the skin on account of the heat, and M. Flammarion's soldiers would have to stand a temperature no salamander could endure. Imagine, too, if his hole reached a depth of many miles, the excited work there would be in, perhaps, tunneling through stratas of solid gold, and of finding precious stones as big as boulders. But anything is better than war, and if M. Flammarion, by his wild project, can only divert men from slaughtering each other, the world would be a gainer, and he would be hailed to all time as a benefactor to the human race.

Out here in real life, the idea of all those countries setting aside their enmities and coming together for one big mining project is silly. Never happen. And if it did, we know what would be found: the crust and upper mantle, the lithosphere. If such an expedition had taken place, the only thing of significance that would have taken place is a possible adoption of or at least consideration of the theory of continental drift.

(Not that such an expedition would have stopped loons like Neal Adams, but never mind).

But in fiction or an rpg...now there is where this might-have-been has potential. A Steampunk The Core, for example. (The Core was great! YES IT WAS SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP). Or...well, imagine the scene: thousands of Prussian and French and British soldiers, covertly casting hostile glances at each other as they use their picks and shovels, crack an opening into an enormous cavern. Some of the soldiers fall into the cavern, others scramble away from the hole. Then...

...well, what's in the cavern? The Mole Man's moloids? Dinosaurs? Some Lovecraftian monster? (Can't recall offhand if HPL had any monster lurking in the depths of the earth). Whatever it is, it retaliates, and suddenly we've got a new version of War of the Worlds, but with the invaders coming from below.

And that's just one of the possible scenarios.

Having just given the preceding a moment's thought, I realize I'm refitting the plot of La Guerre Infernale for a Subterraneans Invade scenario. La Guerre Infernale was a French pulp, created by Pierre Giffard and Albert Robida, which ran for thirty issues in 1908. La Guerre Infernale was about the world war of 1937, which began between Germany and Great Britain and France, dragged in the United States, and then took a right turn when the Japanese, dastardly Yellow Perils that they are, take advantage of the war in Europe to attack. They conquer Europe and attack and conquer most of the United States. This forces the British, Germans, Russians, and Americans to unite into the "White Wall" and attack the Japanese.

I wouldn't want to do a Yellow Peril scenario, but if you swap out the Subterraneans for the Japanese...oh, sod, this is what Harry Harrison did in his Worldwar series, didn't he?

Never mind.
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On September 24th, 2010 04:41 pm (UTC), nitasee commented:
All this reminds me of that MST3K classic, The Mole People.

(Yes, yes, I know it a cheesy 1950's Sci-fi movie.)
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On September 24th, 2010 04:46 pm (UTC), ratmmjess replied:
Ahhh...*that* was what I was trying to think of. Yes!
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On September 24th, 2010 05:09 pm (UTC), nitasee replied:
Great minds think alike...and so do ours. *cha-ching*
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On September 24th, 2010 05:15 pm (UTC), ratmmjess replied:
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On September 24th, 2010 05:26 pm (UTC), jhall1 commented:
"A London paper says :--Of the interior of our earth below the depth of one mile nothing whatever is known"

One would have thought that the widespread existence of volcanoes might have furnished a clue. :)
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On September 24th, 2010 06:38 pm (UTC), martinhesselius commented:

We forget that spiritualism a la Blavatsky and crew was as popular as modern astrology, herbal/alternative medicine, and NeoPaganism all rolled into one.
(Or so it seems to me, but what do I know? ^_^ )
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On September 24th, 2010 06:40 pm (UTC), ratmmjess replied:
Oh, sure. By contemporary standards, he wasn't that crazy.

By our standards, he was. :-)
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On September 24th, 2010 06:47 pm (UTC), martinhesselius replied:

True. ^_^

You've seen this?
Arthur Conan Doyle:

Some plame Doyle for faking the Piltdown Man...
The idea is that Doyle was "striking back" at those who ridiculed him. ;)
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On September 24th, 2010 08:51 pm (UTC), mhacdebhandia commented:
You're thinking of Harry Turtledove's Worldwar series, when the reptilian Race attack during World War II because they think we're slow to advance technologically, like them, and are relying on survey images taken during the 11th century; they think they'll be fighting armoured knights on horseback.

Harry Harrison's alternate history series was Stars and Stripes. That one is about the British entering the U.S. Civil War on the side of the Confederacy, after Prince Albert's death earlier than in our timeline means he isn't around to help resolve the Trent Affair peacefully.
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On September 24th, 2010 08:52 pm (UTC), ratmmjess replied:
And, so it is--thanks for the correction!
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On September 24th, 2010 09:42 pm (UTC), (Anonymous) commented:
This post made me laugh twice. Once when you references Neal Adams and his Inner Earth adventure, and the second when you pulled a Henry and defended The Core by shouting louder and louder.

I did some research on Hollow Earth literature and theory for a game, and HPL did indeed have various subterranean races and societies, expanded upon by the authors who have come after. The Plateau of Leng, for instance, is said by some to be located in the Hollow Earth. The Cthonians live in subterranean tunnels, as you might expect from their name, and other monstrous underground wonders like the Cho-cho and the Vril and so on are all down there. It's an extremely rich. Strata of gold, indeed.

More on the US effort to find the Hollow Earth -- pushed through, as I recall, by a slightly wacky Congressman with a very vocal and wealthy constituent -- can be found in Arktos: The Polar Myth in Science, Symbolism, and Nazi Survival. Winner for "best academic book title of all time."

-- @doctorcomics
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On September 24th, 2010 09:52 pm (UTC), princeofcairo commented:
Some Lovecraftian monster? (Can't recall offhand if HPL had any monster lurking in the depths of the earth)

Whatever lurks in the "lightless depths of N'Kai." Probably Tsathoggua, which makes a nice change.

Where are they digging? Alsace? Or maybe some neutral spot in Africa, like Cameroon. Yeah, Cameroon. Then you can have dinosaurs, too.
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